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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 30th, 2019, 9:37 pm

mtbdudex wrote:What’s that? A 12 speed cog with 54 tooth?


This: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017EGAS5Y/

Get the 54t. It's a drop-in replacement set of ratchets (similar to pawls -- look up DT 350 and 240 hubs) and then you'll have high engagement wheels.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 30th, 2019, 9:52 pm

c0nsumer wrote:
mtbdudex wrote:What’s that? A 12 speed cog with 54 tooth?


This: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017EGAS5Y/

Get the 54t. It's a drop-in replacement set of ratchets (similar to pawls -- look up DT 350 and 240 hubs) and then you'll have high engagement wheels.


I edited my post as you added yours, thx.
It will increase longevity of the hub?
What’s the downside?
Any special tools needed?


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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 30th, 2019, 10:06 pm

No tools. It comes with the needed grease. Longevity is up in the air. Reports online vary from "they are just fine" to them being more fragile. I've had them in my trail bike for three years and done a lot of hard riding on them. I have them in my fat bike, and on my gravel bike. I like them.

I figure clean and relube once a year and you're good. And literally no tools needed for that.
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$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

Postby mtbdudex » December 2nd, 2019, 7:37 pm

c0nsumer wrote:No tools. It comes with the needed grease. Longevity is up in the air. Reports online vary from "they are just fine" to them being more fragile. I've had them in my trail bike for three years and done a lot of hard riding on them. I have them in my fat bike, and on my gravel bike. I like them.

I figure clean and relube once a year and you're good. And literally no tools needed for that.

I Ordered them.

Steve/others;
I ordered 27.5 alloy wheels from framed ... actually the phone rep tried but he told me out of stock.
I did get the studded 27.5 x 4.0 tires still.

These will be my 2nd wheel set, so alloy is good enough, will go tubeless.
I’d appreciate suggestion , if cyber Monday means still a sale.
SRAM XD cassette style for my GX 12 speed .

Budget is $500 for this aluminum wheelset with hubs.

I’ve ordered Hayes rotors and GX cassette already .

What online ones ?
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » December 4th, 2019, 8:57 pm

Well Steve and I had a few IM’s.
I got these 54 teeth star ratchet delivered today
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/technology/wheel-technology/ratchet-system-technology/

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Also ordered this 27.5” wheelset with DT Swiss 350 hubs
https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/Custom-Sunringle-Mulefut-80-6Fattie-Wheelset/PR3E13428/Product

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CLOSEOUT ITEM!! (May not be available at all locations, while supplies last)
These Custom Sunringle Mulefut 80 6Fattie Wheels with DT Swiss 350 Big Ride Hubs are steadfast, durable, ramble over anything wheels! The Mulefut 80 is a solid, weight-and-cost-conscious +Plus and FAT size rim. Strategic material reduction and Sun Ringle Tubeless Ready technology ensure competitive rotational mass. The STR tubeless system creates tubeless seals that burp less, leaving you with more air in your tire. Shorter Sidewalls trap air better when running tubeless. When tubes are used, the lower sidewall of STR rim will eliminate many of the pinch flats that occur when the tire is driven into the top of the rim. Also, the combination of lower air pressure and better tire stability allows riders to go faster with better control.

STR tubeless system creates tubeless seals that burp less
Bead humps to retain the tire bead to the rim
The combination of lower air pressure and better tire stability allows riders to go faster with better control
Laced up to DT Swiss 350 Big Ride 150/197 hubs - Contact-free seals and high precision build guarantee smooth bearings
STR (SUNringlé Tubeless Ready) Mulefut 80mm Rims

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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby jlovett » December 5th, 2019, 12:50 pm

Final weight running tubeless with 3.8's?
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » December 5th, 2019, 12:59 pm

jlovett wrote:Final weight running tubeless with 3.8's?


I’ll post the official scale reading maybe tonight, this was Tuesday,
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I needed to know my Hayes brake pad spec to get replacements , as 20% sale was there direct from Hayes
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » December 5th, 2019, 1:15 pm

Since those Framed rims are single wall, do you even need tape?

(On my HED BADs and the OE wheels on current-gen Specialized Fatboys the nipples seal sufficiently against the rim to not need tape.)
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » December 5th, 2019, 1:25 pm

c0nsumer wrote:Since those Framed rims are single wall, do you even need tape?

(On my HED BADs and the OE wheels on current-gen Specialized Fatboys the nipples seal sufficiently against the rim to not need tape.)


They came that way from Framed per my discussion with the mechanic there. They were out of the short stems or I’d have the bike by now.

I’ll do the tubeless myself on my winter set.


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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » December 5th, 2019, 1:36 pm

Ahh, that works. Another suggestion, for thin wall rims, get nylon spacers like this and put them on your valve stems. Helps with tightening down on single wall rims.

https://nuxx.net/blog/2015/03/17/sunrin ... -stem-fix/
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » December 5th, 2019, 1:51 pm

c0nsumer wrote:Ahh, that works. Another suggestion, for thin wall rims, get nylon spacers like this and put them on your valve stems. Helps with tightening down on single wall rims.

https://nuxx.net/blog/2015/03/17/sunrin ... -stem-fix/


Thx for helpful info, I'll examine when I do mine, looks like some nylon spacers you can get from Home Depot.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby tmbrown » December 5th, 2019, 2:25 pm

Problem solvers super P-nuts look a little cleaner.

https://www.backcountry.com/problem-sol ... gINn_D_BwE
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » December 5th, 2019, 3:57 pm

This does look nicer
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But as I scrolled down this gadget caught my eye as bike candy p0rn, tire pressure sensor!
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Not that I’ll get them at $200 each, still if say $25 or so??


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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » December 5th, 2019, 8:22 pm

tmbrown wrote:Problem solvers super P-nuts look a little cleaner.

https://www.backcountry.com/problem-sol ... gINn_D_BwE


They do. But at $7.99/pair vs. $1 or so for five or six... And you'll be taking these off if/when you need to pop in a tube, which is a prime time to lose them.
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