$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby DynoDon » November 19th, 2019, 8:46 am

Press Fix bottom brackets, I know that would be a deal breaker for me, I haven't had good luck with them, on my Fat Boy...
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby b_b » November 19th, 2019, 10:35 am

c0nsumer wrote:You can find a Bluto for $400, only $100 more than the delta between the carbon and Bluto forks. (There's a brand new one, with better damper, on Michigan Bicycle Classifieds right now.)

You like Bluto over Manitou?
Framed offers either on 2020 but not with GX (strange).
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 19th, 2019, 10:39 am

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c0nsumer wrote:You can find a Bluto for $400, only $100 more than the delta between the carbon and Bluto forks. (There's a brand new one, with better damper, on Michigan Bicycle Classifieds right now.)

You like Bluto over Manitou?
Framed offers either on 2020 but not with GX (strange).


I've never used a Manitou. I know they are heavier, but stiffer. Lots of folks say the Bluto is flexy. I was just trying to go for the equivalent.

Personally, I'd still stick with a rigid fork on a fat bike. I've had lots of options to buy a suspension fork for mine, but I've never done it. Just can't justify it.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby chris_werth » November 19th, 2019, 11:10 am

DynoDon wrote:Press Fix bottom brackets, I know that would be a deal breaker for me, I haven't had good luck with them, on my Fat Boy...



Don, check out the bottom brackets at wheels manufacturing. I had some problems with the PF creaking in my Farley. Took out the stock one, installed a WM bracket and all is good. One side of the BB presses in, while the other side actually screws into the pressed in side. Great fit, no noises.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby bender16v » November 19th, 2019, 12:13 pm

I can't help with the bike decision because I don't have any of those three, but on the suspension vs. rigid question I have a Bluto and haven't found it flexy at 165 lbs. or or when dressed in winter boots and gear. The past two years I had been switching the Bluto on for the summer and off for the winter but I think I'm done with it. The benefits aren't worth it on my fatbikes, so like c0nsumer I would go rigid, especially for winter duty.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 19th, 2019, 1:20 pm

FWIW, all the complaints I've heard from folks about the Bluto being flexy come from them riding it hard in summer.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 19th, 2019, 2:04 pm

I spoke directly to Framed bikes, asked him their experience bluto vs manitou, his response “their phasing out the manitou... some cold weather issues among reasons ”.
Also he’s adamant the maxxis tires are equivalent to the terrece...

I’m now on fence post susp vs ridgid...


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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby flamingo » November 19th, 2019, 6:01 pm

I might be a contrarian one overhere but I do not regret putting the Bluto on my Fatboy. Even thou it stiffens in the cold temperatures (remedy on the way) and I ride at 5.5psi, I feel the difference while I ride the trails. I don't like abusing my wrists. Yes it makes the bike a bit heavier but with 4.8" tires, aluminum rims my Fatboy Carbon still weigh 28 lb which is pretty decent for a fatbike.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 19th, 2019, 8:05 pm

Flamingo, earlier tonight I had the alum frame / wheels Giant Yukon 1 weighed, without pedals 32lbs.
With 600g pedals 33.3 lbs


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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 19th, 2019, 9:13 pm

Just weighed this 2016 Trek Farley 7 3 times... its 31.5 lbs ... pretty light
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby gjt1980 » November 20th, 2019, 7:56 am

What about Borealis


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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 20th, 2019, 9:30 am

gjt1980 wrote:What about Borealis


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Hey - thx for posting this...I'm using their site now ... it's much better than Framed site for Build to order and info ... wow ...
https://www.fatbike.com/store/TELLURIDE-EAGLE-12-Speed-p124040091

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Will the Build to order / direct sales kill LBS's?
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby b_b » November 20th, 2019, 10:48 am

mtbdudex wrote:
gjt1980 wrote:What about Borealis

Hey - thx for posting this...I'm using their site now ... it's much better than Framed site for Build to order and info ... wow ...
https://www.fatbike.com/store/TELLURIDE-EAGLE-12-Speed-p124040091

Very compelling! You could get a very nice build carbon frame/fork and add carbon wheels Consumer linked for little over $3K. Too bad they don't have NO wheels credit option like some other parts, but maybe they would if you call them?

https://www.fatbike.com/store/CRESTONE- ... p124041936
https://brokenspokebikes.com/products/d ... b-a-d-rims
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 20th, 2019, 1:22 pm

I would say don't go for carbon HED wheels, just get the aluminum BAD ones. I've had them for 3-4 years now and they are great. They WILL dent if you hit the rim, so be sure you have enough pressure to avoid that. And minor dents can be fixed with a rubber mallet. But otherwise they are an excellent wheel even for very low pressures (like 1-2 PSI, full wrinkly sidewall).
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 20th, 2019, 1:46 pm

After using the Borealis BTO site more .... still seems that Framed is a better build vs value than Borealis.

Their Telluride is Alum, their $$$ CRESTONE EAGLE race bike is carbon , but w/o front shock ...
Still love the BTO site of Borealis , shows weight as you build it, I build a $3.1k Telluride - same component spec as the Framed basically, weighs 31.30 lbs with pedals

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