$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 20th, 2019, 2:21 pm

Now, also consider geometry... ;)

Specialized absolutely nails modern bike geometry. As does Trek. Other brands, not so sure...

Oh, and on a fatbike, it's wheel weight that matters. Not overall bike weight. You absolutely WILL feel lighter wheels, but a heavier frame won't be that noticeable. Especially when you're wearing an extra five or ten pounds of clothing.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby bbender785 » November 20th, 2019, 3:41 pm

c0nsumer wrote:Now, also consider geometry... ;) Specialized absolutely nails modern bike geometry.


agree. my fatboy is my lowest spec'd and heaviest bike i own, yet it's easily my favorite.

c0nsumer wrote:..You absolutely WILL feel lighter wheels,


also agree. just going tubeless on my stock wheels and tires cut over a pound per wheel and it was immediately a different bike.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby b_b » November 20th, 2019, 3:57 pm

Boreals Crestone geo looks similar to Fatboy. Main difference is head tube length and stack. With that said I have no regrets with my Specialized (Stumpy) and they seem to do a great job with overall build/package and warranty. I only wish Fatboy had DT rear hub.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby flamingo » November 20th, 2019, 4:36 pm

mtbdudex wrote:Flamingo, earlier tonight I had the alum frame / wheels Giant Yukon 1 weighed, without pedals 32lbs.
With 600g pedals 33.3 lbs


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I have the Dt Swiss BR wheels with Schwalbe Jumbo Jim Snake Skin tires setup tubeless. Race Face crankset carbon handlebar and seatpost. Crank brothers egg beater titanium pedals. I am sure all that saves some weight.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby bbender785 » November 20th, 2019, 5:01 pm

flamingo wrote:I have the Dt Swiss BR wheels with Schwalbe Jumbo Jim Snake Skin tires setup tubeless. Race Face crankset carbon handlebar and seatpost. Crank brothers egg beater titanium pedals. I am sure all that saves some weight.


definitely. i had my XL aluminum frame Fatboy at a touch over 28lb with 4.8 jumbo jims tubeless on stock wheels (the old style with cutouts) and a couple carbon c0ckpit parts.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 20th, 2019, 5:12 pm

I would NOT get the DT BR2250 wheels for one big reason: they have small vent holes drilled in the bead seat. Setting them up tubeless requires either FattyStrippers or some trickery. If used with tubes they are fine wheels. I had some for a while, and they were fine, but I was glad to be rid of them and go to HED BADs. The stock wheels on current Specialized Fatboys (the single wall ones with no holes) are excellent for tubeless. The older Specialized ones with cutouts in the rims have the same problems at DT BR2250s.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 21st, 2019, 4:47 am

This , always nice to save 10%
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby bbender785 » November 21st, 2019, 6:29 am

c0nsumer wrote:..the DT BR2250 wheels.. ..setting them up tubeless requires either FattyStrippers or some trickery... The older Specialized ones with cutouts in the rims have the same problems at DT BR2250s.


true. that said, i'm 3/3 using the Fattystrippers with the older specialized ones. works well.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 21st, 2019, 8:19 am

bbender785 wrote:
c0nsumer wrote:..the DT BR2250 wheels.. ..setting them up tubeless requires either FattyStrippers or some trickery... The older Specialized ones with cutouts in the rims have the same problems at DT BR2250s.


true. that said, i'm 3/3 using the Fattystrippers with the older specialized ones. works well.


They do. I just don't like how they are effectively a disposable item. Makes swapping tires a pain in the butt.

(I don't swap tires much, but I do have summer and winter tires... and studs for as winter gets icy.)
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby mtbdudex » November 21st, 2019, 2:47 pm

I placed my order , will give feedback upon arrival and a few rides
Thx all for multiple times chiming in
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$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

Postby mtbdudex » November 29th, 2019, 11:36 am

It’s time for some 2020 Framed Alaskan bike p0rn [emoji23][emoji23]
Delivered Wednesday, due to 36 people over thanksgiving built it just now, inaugural ride later today.
Looking forward to joining some group rides in near future.
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby c0nsumer » November 29th, 2019, 4:47 pm

That's looking nice. Consider the 54t upgrade for the DT Swiss hubs. Makes it real nice. (And don't buy the knock-off ones, they fail. Stick to the ones from DT Swiss.)
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby b_b » November 30th, 2019, 10:00 am

Wow looks great! Were you expecting DT hubs or was that a surprise?
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

Postby jlovett » November 30th, 2019, 10:35 am

That is one sweet looking rig you picked up!
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$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

Postby mtbdudex » November 30th, 2019, 5:52 pm

c0nsumer wrote:That's looking nice. Consider the 54t upgrade for the DT Swiss hubs. Makes it real nice. (And don't buy the knock-off ones, they fail. Stick to the ones from DT Swiss.)


What’s that? A 12 speed cog with 54 tooth?

Edit:
Ahh, this , $107
https://www.jensonusa.com/DT-Swiss-54T-Star-Ratchet-Upgrade-Kit

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017EGAS5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RMY4DbQYADG74?th=1&psc=1

Ok, so educate me, this is a good upgrade?
It engaged sooner, if that’s better why not the stock one have it.
What’s the downside?

All I know is my 1998 26” Mavic Crossmax rims and hubs were bullet proof, still to this day, if doing this helps longevity then ok.

b_b wrote:Wow looks great! Were you expecting DT hubs or was that a surprise?

Actually no, a big bonus surprise

jlovett wrote:That is one sweet looking rig you picked up!

Truly have fun with this bike, and smiling as I ride.

Got these and a 2nd set of rims... so bike gear wise all ready for winter
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