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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 7:47 am
by c0nsumer
Not quite. You still need a rim strip with tubes because otherwise the tubes will expand through the holes and tear. For this you need a cloth, vinyl, whatever strip. Note that if you use a pourous strip the tube will get exposed to ozone and degrade faster. I had this happen here: https://nuxx.net/blog/2014/05/26/failed ... ight-tube/

For tubeless you need to seal up those holes with tubeless tape, and a backer (the rim strip) to support the tubeless tape so it doesn't expand/pucker and affect your tubeless setup.

Surly makes some rim strips. Other people use Duck (brand) tape, ribbon, etc.

This all gets at the root of why I personally am not fond of doing tubeless on rims with cutouts. With solid rims (eg: HED, Specialized Stout OE, Bontrager Jackalope) all you do is put the tire on and add sealant, as the nipples (being aluminum and all) seal themselves against the rim, and there's no cutouts to leak.

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 7:48 am
by bbender785

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 7:58 am
by c0nsumer
bbender785 wrote:Bling Strips:

http://fattystripper.com/


FWIW, these are just non-adhesive strips of 3M retroreflective material.

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 8:03 am
by bbender785
they're actually fully adhesive backed, you just remove a couple inch section of the backing tape where it overlaps itself to hold it together. i made my own rims strips using carbon fiber look vinyl, with the sticky side fully exposed and stuck to the sticky side of clear packing tape, with some extra clear tape length left to stick to itself once it overlaps. tedious work making them, but its fun having something noone else does (and it's the closest i'll ever get to having carbon wheels, haha).

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 8:05 am
by mtbdudex
bbender785 wrote:Bling Strips:

http://fattystripper.com/


Perfect!
I'm buying the reflective blue, love it, thx.

The Works - Tubeless Kit
$38.00
2 pairs of FattyStripper RimStrips.

1 pair of tubeless valves.

1 pair of 3M BlingStrips (specify COLOR, rim width and diameter - 26", 27" or 29").

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 8:17 am
by flamingo
mtbdudex wrote:
bbender785 wrote:Bling Strips:


Perfect!
I'm buying the reflective blue, love it, thx.

The Works - Tubeless Kit
$38.00
2 pairs of FattyStripper RimStrips.

1 pair of tubeless valves.

1 pair of 3M BlingStrips (specify COLOR, rim width and diameter - 26", 27" or 29").


I bought a set last year for my DT-Swiss wheels also with the blue Bling Strips. The kit works grate on those rims. Over the summer time the wheels held 5PSI of pressure

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 8:24 am
by bbender785
mtbdudex wrote:Perfect!
I'm buying the reflective blue, love it, thx.

The Works - Tubeless Kit
$38.00
2 pairs of FattyStripper RimStrips.

1 pair of tubeless valves.

1 pair of 3M BlingStrips (specify COLOR, rim width and diameter - 26", 27" or 29").


just fyi the fattystripper rims strips are an alternative to tubeless tape. it accomplishes the same thing, just a slightly different approach. most will tell you to just use the tape with those mulefuts since that's what they were designed for. if you do, you just need:

1 Pair 3M BlingStrips
$12.00


i just set up my fourth set of wheels using the fattystrippers though. if you don't plan to swap tires ever (they're pretty much a single-use item), i think it's the best solution for wheels with cutouts. i've run my front tire at 0.5psi on the old window-style specialized wheels in extremely light and dry, fresh snow once with no burps (i'm 200lb fwiw).

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 8:27 am
by mtbdudex
bbender785 wrote:
mtbdudex wrote:Perfect!
I'm buying the reflective blue, love it, thx.

The Works - Tubeless Kit
$38.00
2 pairs of FattyStripper RimStrips.

1 pair of tubeless valves.

1 pair of 3M BlingStrips (specify COLOR, rim width and diameter - 26", 27" or 29").


just fyi the fattystripper rims strips are an alternative to tubeless tape. it accomplishes the same thing, just a slightly different approach. most will tell you to just use the tape with those mulefuts since that's what they were designed for. i just set up my fourth set of wheels using the fattystrippers though. if you don't plan to swap tires ever (they're pretty much a single-use item), i think it's the best solution for wheels with cutouts. i've run my front tire at 0.5psi on the old window-style specialized wheels in extremely light and dry, fresh snow once with no burps (i'm 200lb fwiw).


These are my winter set of tires, sounds like a good match for my needs, I just placed my order $42.25 to local economy.

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: December 13th, 2019, 10:00 am
by c0nsumer
If you aren't ever planning to take the tires off those wheels, Fattystrippers will work very well for you.

Just keep in mind they aren't reusable. But if you never take the tires off, then... <shrug>

$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

PostPosted: January 28th, 2020, 5:11 am
by mtbdudex
c0nsumer wrote:If you aren't ever planning to take the tires off those wheels, Fattystrippers will work very well for you.

Just keep in mind they aren't reusable. But if you never take the tires off, then... <shrug>


Fatty strippers with blue bling installed
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18t to 54t tooth upgrade installed , XD hub swapped over as I bought Shimano hub by mistake.
I’m getting XD freebody hub
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Greased everything, the 54t seems louder at coasting, will that go away?
My stock 350 hubs from framed came with 36t


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$2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed Bikes

PostPosted: February 3rd, 2020, 5:32 am
by mtbdudex
Ok, I’m hooked on carbon, love the less cold transfer to my hands, even when just moving the bike.
What carbon seatpost and handlebars you guys using?

I’m looking at this seat post , need advice on handlebars
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Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: February 3rd, 2020, 6:45 am
by c0nsumer
I don't bother with a carbon seatpost. No real value in keeping you warm, as the saddle hangs out there isolated on its own. No heat transfer there.

Bar-wise I've got a Salsa Salt Flat Carbon because I'd been using the aluminum version and liked the shape. With ESI Extra Chunky foam grips and heat shrink tubing applied to my brake levers.

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: February 3rd, 2020, 7:34 am
by bbender785
i run ControlTech EXL series carbon c0ckpit bits on both my off-road bikes. i set price alerts on amazon for them and wait until they dip below $40 and snag them. works great if you're not in a hurry. i can't afford to be. :lol:

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: February 3rd, 2020, 7:45 am
by DynoDon
With all the post holes out there in S/E Mi I'm considering a Redshift suspension seat post for the Fat Bike, I have one on the gravel bike, its a game changer, amazing on our gravel roads, I'm not sure anything will help on the post holes though..

Re: $2.5k fat bike: Trek vs Giant vs Specialized vs Framed B

PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 10:00 am
by mtbdudex
DynoDon wrote:With all the post holes out there in S/E Mi I'm considering a Redshift suspension seat post for the Fat Bike, I have one on the gravel bike, its a game changer, amazing on our gravel roads, I'm not sure anything will help on the post holes though..


Try 1.5psi?? Ha, you'd squish right over all of them :mrgreen: