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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby bhollen666 » June 18th, 2011, 3:27 pm

Trail mowed again today; double wide and then a third pass down the middle on the low setting to chop up any thorns. Still a few face slappers, but every time I stopped too long to prune them them the mosquitos and deer flies charged me.

To the two riders who rode passed me on the mower today, sorry I couldn't stop to talk and waved you on. I didn't want to shut off the mower for fear it wouldn't start again and I didn't want you to get attacked by the bugs either. Hope you had a good ride.

By the way, this spring has raised a bumper crop of poison ivy. Be careful out there!
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby P_Thomas22 » June 18th, 2011, 10:55 pm

Rode it today. Must of been just after you finished, thanks, was surprisingly quick for being so flat and bumpy. Well Done! The deer flies and mosquito's were very bad though. Was even getting bitten through my jersey on my back!
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby ChrisInYpsi » June 19th, 2011, 8:42 pm

Rode it this afternoon. Was nice with the grass clipped - thanks. I agree about the skeeters and flies: tons of them esp if you stop for a moment.

This is my first year riding the trail so this may have been brought up before, but has anyone given consideration to installing signs at the trail intersections (like RHP perhaps) to help new riders find their way? I'd be willing to make/donate laminated signs and posts if there is any interest. The other night there were a number of local teens milling around so I'm not sure if they'd last long, but they'd be helpful for newbies like me... Let me know if I can help.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby P_Thomas22 » June 20th, 2011, 7:14 am

My first year as well chris and I know they have put signs up before and as you suspect, the local youths just tear them down. Since its not a patrolled park its not easy for it to be regulated. At least they arent messing with the log piles...
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby bhollen666 » June 20th, 2011, 8:11 pm

We've tried stakes with laminated pictures just like Rolling Hills, but they didn't last two weeks before they were ripped out and thrown in the woods. We then tried those yellow flags and most of them were also ripped out. Someone was nice enough to put some of them back, but they are usually torn out. We suspected it was a bunch of locals who used to hunt the park before the township bought it. It's been a few years now and we've not seen as many of them as there have been before. Maybe they've finally given up or we've finally struck some kind of balance in the park.

We suggested to the township that we paint marks on some trees, marking different points on the trail with the letters that we tried for the location markers, with green when you are facing the correct direction and red or yellow in the opposite way. We recommended this to the township but never got a response.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby c0nsumer » June 20th, 2011, 8:18 pm

Try 4" x 6" pieces of Coroplast nailed to trees about 8' up. (Stand on a milk crate while and nail them in above your head.)

The ones that I put in place have lasted almost a year at River Bends. Info about them can be found in this thread. I'm getting more made up and they are going to be used as our permanent signage. If you've got any questions about them or how they were done, let me know.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby ChrisInYpsi » June 20th, 2011, 9:39 pm

Bummer about the previous experience with the signs. Perhaps enough time has passed that we could try again? As I mentioned before I'd be happy to help pursue new signs. Not sure how that stuff works here with the MMBA trail coordinators, but if there's anything I can do please let me know. Make signs/stakes, stop by the township office (I'm a Twp resident & taxpayer), etc.....

You just don't want me installing the signs since I've ridden the trail 3 times and gotten mixed up to varying degrees each time. :oops:
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby bhollen666 » June 26th, 2011, 8:53 pm

Eastern loop completely cleaned up this weekend. Tons of grape vines, thorns, and poison ivy were cut back and chopped up with the mower. Took out more trees and shrubs that were on the inside of turns slowing things down. It now rides really nice and fast. Unfortunately the new section in the north west corner is closing in already; riding through today ripped a lot of flesh from my forearms. You might want to avoid it if you're not into pain. ;)
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby dnale » June 29th, 2011, 7:09 pm

Rode it tonight for the first time this year. Guess I should have looked at the map. I think I took the nw corner but it brought me back out to the same trail. Not sure if it was supposed to do that. Did 4.6 miles according to the bike computer. Not sure it that's right or not. It's in so much better shape that the last time I rode it. Still a little tough on the bottom but much better. Ended up with a flat somehow. Wasn't flat when I put the bike in the roof rack (front wheel off) and when I took it out of the hatch at home the front was flat. Oh well, time for another new tube.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby bhollen666 » June 29th, 2011, 8:46 pm

Sorry you got a flat. I have been trying to take extra measures to chop up the thorns after a clearing so that there are fewer thorns left over. Actually this weekend I did the eastern loop over two days but mowed each section after the clearing on the "mulching" setting.

I got tired of flats from riding here so I took Werner's advice (Thanks Werner!) and bought some of those inner liners for the tires to protect the tube from smaller/shorter punctures. Plus I use a little Slime in the tires. I don't wanna jinx myself (knocks on wood) but so far this year with these updates and my extra mowing I've had only one flat. And that thorn was a big one, likely from a hawthorn tree!

The northwest loop is the split in the long wooded section that is the last part of the trail. You can go right to add an extra mile to the trail through an out-and-back path before it splits in the woods for a loop. Its the section where there is a huge rock which I put a short log in front of it to help to transition a ride over the top of it. This loop also takes you to another smaller pond and past part of the northern stretch of the Hewen's Creek.

I rode the eastern loop myself tonight, jumping on from the "semi-secret" entrance along Hitchingham. This is actually where I ride in with the mower, so it's more of a utilitarian access then anything else. It's also the place where I confuse a lot of riders who think that they should go right there and they get taken right out to the road. I temporarily setup a part of a tree to try to "steer" riders left, which I hope will last until I can get some signs setup.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby dnale » June 30th, 2011, 7:19 am

I did the same wrong turn. It's not your fault I flatted. Sounds like I did the "correct" out and back on the same trail on that one section.

Do you mind if I go out tonight with a pair of snippers and take a couple of the new growth briars out?
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby dnale » June 30th, 2011, 8:31 pm

Didn't make it out tonight. Tried to get the flat fixed. Went through 2 of my old tubes and they all had leaks too. Found the cause of the original leak. Was a nice 1/2" long thick thorn.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby bhollen666 » July 1st, 2011, 8:58 pm

No problem at all. Frequently I'll ride with a small pair of nippers or loppers to cut stuff that might get the next rider. There's nothing you can do that would be wrong -- go for it and thanks!
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby dnale » July 4th, 2011, 8:17 pm

Rode again today. Still looks in pretty good shape. Found a rut about 1/4 mile in that my front wheel found in the one corner... I'm pretty sure the grass isn't covering it anymore.
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Re: Poto: Hewens Creek

Postby bhollen666 » July 8th, 2011, 9:03 pm

Rode through it tonight and it does seem to be holding up pretty well these last few weeks. The eastern loop is still really good and fast. The new section in the northwest was re-opened by someone who took some time with a pair of pruners. Thanks from all of us riders for that work and effort, now you can ride this stretch again without getting ripped up by thorns.

Right after the first wooded section and into the first field section (what had been labeled "B" on the map) there are the remnants of an opposum. I expect that the coyote(s?) got it and ate all of the good bits. Now all that's left is bone and a pile of fur. Will try to clean that up this weekend, but of course, that's the natural way.

Thanks again to those who helped out this past week!
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