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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby wifevsbike_bikewins » February 28th, 2009, 7:14 pm

Ouch!!! Great day to be out on the trail! Unfortunately I didn't learn to take it easy until after about four spills on the ice in the first mile. I wouldn't let it deter me though, I completed the full loop, it was too nice out there not to have. Overall the trail was about 50% ice/snow pack. As long as you are cautious and careful on the ice, the trail was pretty good. Lots of trees and branches down as well. A majority of the small stuff has been removed that could be by hand, THANK YOU! Can't wait, my optimism is telling me another month and all I will have to deal with is the mud, yippee!
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby Guppie » March 1st, 2009, 4:12 pm

Won't riding in the mud damage the trail?
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby Bigtymer » March 1st, 2009, 7:34 pm

Yep it sure will!
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby MrSingleTrack » March 2nd, 2009, 9:59 am

I did the big loop Saturday. Not much deep snow left, but a whole lot of ice from pooled up melt water that had frozen hard, and I wasn't riding studs, so I wound up walking about half of it. Still a nice day to get out. Yankee has maybe 25ft of mud in 13 miles of trail, it is always best and least "damaged" early in the year, although I don't believe bikes "damage" trails anyhow.
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby ReidRules18 » March 2nd, 2009, 12:19 pm

I went out the same day the last two other people posted and noticed the same things. There was a bit of ice over the trail and I was without studs. However after only about 1/2 mile in, I cut over, ducked onto the road and went for an hour long ride that way. The chances of me crashing out on that ice was too great for me! But that 1/2 mile ride really tempted me and now I can't wait for a loop out there!
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby sworks88 » March 5th, 2009, 10:44 am

By tomorrow night I should be able to do a loop?!?!?!?! I really want to get outside and ride!!!!!!!

Anybody know how the trail is as of say WEDNESDAY MARCH 4th?????
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby ReidRules18 » March 5th, 2009, 11:39 am

Sean I am with you, I am begging to get out and ride with this warm weather on Friday. However, with the rain for Thursday night and the warmer temperatures I don't know if the trail is going to be in rideable condition. It might be a mess of melting snow and left over rain water soaking the trail. Who knows I could be wrong, I figure I will see how the conditions look Friday morning and if not so well, I am going to either head out for a trail run or ride the roads if the trail is too sloppy for the bike.
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby sworks88 » March 5th, 2009, 12:21 pm

I don't know Ried.....Yankee is a fast drainer.......
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby MrSingleTrack » March 5th, 2009, 1:26 pm

There was a ton of ice on the trail still last weekend, I'm guessing it will be slop-o-la for this weekends warm up, but next weekend, an early ride before temps get up, could be perfect.
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby sworks88 » March 5th, 2009, 3:10 pm

I am fighting a head cold anyway.....a ride on Friday would be a bad idea I think.....
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby Bigtymer » March 7th, 2009, 12:30 pm

All you guys need to wait for the trail to dry out. YOU'RE RUINING THE TRAIL. The MMBA even released a book on the main page, which explains why its bad to ride on the trails when there muddy. Read below.

The recent warm weather may have melted the snow, but the sub-surface layers of soil are still partially frozen. Trails are critically sensitive to erosion damage at this time.

Please ride on pavement or gravel roads for a few more weeks, until the trails have properly thawed and dried out. A good rule of thumb is that when the earthworms begin to emerge, the ground is suitably thawed for trail activities (usually by mid-April).

Help us keep trails open to mountain biking by riding in an environmentally so
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby Crash & Burn » March 7th, 2009, 3:52 pm

[quote="Bigtymer"]All you guys need to wait for the trail to dry out. YOU'RE RUINING THE TRAIL. [/quote]

The people that have been posting here are not "RUINNING THE TRAIL" We are riding when the trail is frozen or once it has dried out. We all ride this trail a ton and have a vested interest in keeping this trail in excellent shape. I have been there for trail days (Although not as many as I probably should), but I would consider all of us as good stewards of the trail. Please don't jump to conclusions.
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby Bigtymer » March 8th, 2009, 1:40 am

. what evere makes you feel better.... The recent warm weather may have melted the snow, but the sub-surface layers of soil are STILL PARTIALLY FROZEN. Trails are critically sensitive to erosion damage at this time..... I find extremely hard to believe that the trail is dryed out already bc it was still alot fo snow that hasn't melted at yankee springs. But hey maybe its stil frozen with all this warm weather hasn't melted the ground so you can ride.
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby ReidRules18 » March 8th, 2009, 2:14 am

[quote="Bigtymer"]. what evere makes you feel better.... The recent warm weather may have melted the snow, but the sub-surface layers of soil are STILL PARTIALLY FROZEN. Trails are critically sensitive to erosion damage at this time..... I find extremely hard to believe that the trail is dryed out already bc it was still alot fo snow that hasn't melted at yankee springs. But hey maybe its stil frozen with all this warm weather hasn't melted the ground so you can ride.[/quote]

You are right in the fact that the trail is not in rideable condition. I was out there on Friday on a trail run and there were some sun dried spots that were bikeable, however 50% were under snow or contained mud or water ontop of the trail and would not recommend riding a mountain bike on. It looks like a majority of bikers understand this and have not ridden, however returned to the trailhead I saw a couple of vehicles with mountain bikes heading out on the trail much to my dismay.

For those out there that read this, I would still recommend staying off the Yankee Springs trail for quite awhile no matter what the temps get on some warm spring day. If it's muddy stay off.
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Re: Western: Yankee Springs

Postby Bigtymer » March 10th, 2009, 11:27 am

Thanks bro!!! Finally some who will actually cares about the trails!! I wasn't trying to be an ass to the other guys. Like you, Im just trying to preserve a trail Ive been riding for 15 years.. Thanks for backing me up!!
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