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"Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby Davemtbkayak » August 31st, 2012, 10:18 pm

OK... I'm determined to get out of my rut of ridding Pontiac Lake every weekend. All I've ridden other than PL is Stony and Potto. I need to ride something new :D I'm looking at ridding either Tree Farm, Highland, or Holdridge Sat (9-1-12) or Sun (9-2-12) or both. Anyone interested in ridding any of those this Labor Day Weekend? Saturday late afternoon or anytime Sunday?


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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby FLIPMODES » September 1st, 2012, 9:49 am

I'd be up for it depending on what time.
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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby Davemtbkayak » September 1st, 2012, 10:32 am

Cool. Just got back from a hike w/ the dogs. Probably take a little time to relax and then probably head out between 2pm-3pm, but I"m flexible. Which trail were you thinking of riding? I may not check this for a few hours, so feel free to give me a call: 704-359-7878


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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby FLIPMODES » September 1st, 2012, 12:08 pm

Sunday morning works better for me. I'm up for whatever trail. Haven't rode Holdrige yet this year, Highland has been a few years ago and never rode Tree Farm. If this Sunday morning works for you, the honors of trail choice is yours. According to the weather channel, no rain in the forecast in the Holly area tomorrow morning. :D
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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby Davemtbkayak » September 1st, 2012, 1:32 pm

Sounds good to me. I'm heading out in about 30 min. to try "Grueber's Grinder" at Holdridge. I was thinking Tree Farm tomorrow if you are OK with that. But again, I'll ride anywhere tomorrow. I'll check back w/ the site tonight. Hopefully Gruebers Grinder is a good ride.

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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby shenny88 » September 1st, 2012, 1:59 pm

Tree Farm is fun, not very challenging, but still a fun and fast 10.5 mile loop with some cool man made obstacles. Highland is very challenging endurance-wise for metro Detroit, lots of technical climbing and technical descending, plus some tight spots, and i believe its about 16-17 miles if you do every loop once. I'll admit, i dont like riding Highland more than a couple times per season b/c it just doesnt give me the speed/flow i enjoy.

They're both great places to ride. Tree Farms (Lakeshore Park) is more like Stony and Highland is more like Poto or PL perhaps, but minus some of the flow/speed and plus some technical endurance stuff.

Let me know what you think of Holdridge compared to the places you've ridden so far. Its one of the only trails in SE Michigan that i havnet ridden and ive heard very different opinions of it. Its a bit of a drive for me, so im curious if its worth it.
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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby FLIPMODES » September 1st, 2012, 3:15 pm

shenny88 wrote:
Let me know what you think of Holdridge compared to the places you've ridden so far. Its one of the only trails in SE Michigan that i havnet ridden and ive heard very different opinions of it. Its a bit of a drive for me, so im curious if its worth it.


Totally worth the drive. The east and west loops have a nice flow with plenty of technical mixed in. I haven't rode the Grinder yet. Maybe tomorrow if davemtbkayak is up for another go.

Ruby campground is another great ride up near Port Huron. Well worth the drive.
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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby Davemtbkayak » September 1st, 2012, 9:07 pm

Hi guys. I just did the 15 mile Grinder part, so I can' speak of the other trails at Holdridge. Overall, I'd say its a very good trail, but not excellent. Far less flow than PL or Potto, but just enough flow to keep a rider happy :) Also... much more technical w/ climbs, rocks, roots, etc. I felt like I was doing more "mtn biking" vs trail rididing if that makes any sense. The trail is marked perfectly- impossible to get lost. First 5.5 miles have some great short climbs and technical areas- I really liked it. Miles 5.5 through about mile 11 are decent (and slighly on the boring side at times) and around mile 11 through 15 is good w/ climbs and technical spots. I feel like the Grinder is something I'd like to ride maybe 5-10 times a year or so b/c I do like the technical parts, but Pontiac Lake is still "king" in my opinion :) If you've never ridden it, then its worth a longer drive.

I wouldn't mind ridding it again tomorrow. 10:30am is the earliest I could do.

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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby Davemtbkayak » September 2nd, 2012, 8:29 am

FYI... I think the East Loop IS "Grueber's Grinder." I talked to 2 riders at the trail and asked them how to get onto GG. They simply told me enter on the north trail, go about 1/2 a mile or so, make a right on the east loop, cross the road and you're on Grueber's Grinder. It is right around 15 miles. So "Flipmodes," you may have already ridden this if you've ridden the west and east loops.

I'm getting ready to load the bike and gear up now. I'll be leaving around 10:15am or so. I think I'm going to ride GG again and probably try the west trail first for a warm-up. I'll be leaving the trailhead right around 11am. I drive an orange/grey Honda Element. Just call if you are on your way: 704-359-7878.

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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby Davemtbkayak » September 2nd, 2012, 2:30 pm

Rode the GGEast loop again today but w/ the West Loop too. West Loop is only 6 miles (w/ the 2 options), but it is a BLAST! More flow than a Stony, but more challenging as well. Its hard not to smile the entire time you are on this 6 miles. You can really fly on this trail, but there are still plenty of technical spots and good climbs. Great loop! Just want Holdridge needed to balance the technical East/GG loop. Awesome!

FYI: The total of 21 miles at Holdridge took me 2 hours and 30 min. to finish. In comparison, I ride 22 miles (2 loops at Pontiac Lake) around 1 hour and 40-45 min. It really is a grinder of a ride (at least for me).

Let me know if you guys ever want to ride in the future. I'll definitely ride again at Holdridge!
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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby FLIPMODES » September 2nd, 2012, 8:43 pm

I really wanted to join you this morning but something came up. I will be going tomorrow in the late morning sometime. Finally
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Re: "Tree Farm," Highland or Holdridge 9-1-12 or 9-2-12

Postby FLIPMODES » September 3rd, 2012, 7:36 am

Heading out to Holdrige in 30 mins. Trail head by 10AM. If anybody is interested text me 810-689-3494
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