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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby Scotty » August 17th, 2010, 2:18 pm

The people making changes to the trail probably don't read this board. They're more than likely ignorant of the trail management issues involved here. It's the same thing that's been going on at the CSGA. I've seen it at the Cannonsburg Ski Hill too.

I don't know what the answer is. More "education?" You can paint it on a giant billboard in the parking lot and half the chodes won't read it.

People who KNOW what they're doing would build bandit trail somewhere AWAY from the existing trail so that few people would notice. :wink:
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby RickPlite » August 19th, 2010, 8:33 am

Scotty- I tend to disagree, I think they are reading this forum. It has been less than 48 hours since my request to leave the trails alone and now someone has literally cut trees out of the trail in areas I described. They also raked a re-route/shortcut open on the first switchback of the Black Loop, fall line no less. I truly believe they did this to spite me after reading my post.

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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby John_H » August 19th, 2010, 11:05 am

RickPlite wrote:Scotty- I tend to disagree, I think they are reading this forum. It has been less than 48 hours since my request to leave the trails alone and now someone has literally cut trees out of the trail in areas I described. They also raked a re-route/shortcut open on the first switchback of the Black Loop, fall line no less. I truly believe they did this to spite me after reading my post.

Wow! Ridiculous! I think someone may need to camp out there in full camo and catch red handed!
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby Mark H. » August 19th, 2010, 4:13 pm

I think someone is feeding off of these comments on here, just like a little kid. Maybe let it go & they will stop, I hope that people still ride the old routes, & that person can wast his time on the reroutes.

Cutting trees out! WTF are they doing!
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby Scotty » August 20th, 2010, 3:43 pm

John_H wrote:
RickPlite wrote:Scotty- I tend to disagree, I think they are reading this forum. It has been less than 48 hours since my request to leave the trails alone and now someone has literally cut trees out of the trail in areas I described. They also raked a re-route/shortcut open on the first switchback of the Black Loop, fall line no less. I truly believe they did this to spite me after reading my post.

Wow! Ridiculous! I think someone may need to camp out there in full camo and catch red handed!


Hmmm.

If it's that dramatic I'm guessing you've got a rouge trail builder out there. Whether they're "in the know" as to what goes on in these forums is impossible to guess. But it's obvious that it's more than just spur of the moment short cuts if they're raking the trail and cutting down trees. Whoever is doing it knows exactly what they're doing.

The only way you'll nail the SOB is if someone sees them doing it, recognizes them and squeals on them.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby Slimm » August 25th, 2010, 8:32 am

trail was dry and fast last night. getting slick in some of the tight corners.

the fill on blue seems to have helped the standing water issues, I think I heard they are bringing in more to finish the area at blue/orange this week.

looks like the rogues have been at it again blocking off authorized trail, in spite of the request of the TC and the notice posted by the county that they will prosecute anyone found doing that sort of thing. At least I didn't see any new short cuts or cut down trees.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby RickPlite » August 25th, 2010, 5:31 pm

Dave and I were out doing some trail work today. We created some new drain nicks on the Orange Loop and we banked out a turn on the Black Loop. We also created a wider turn entering the fern area of the Black Loop to minimize braking bumps. This is an authorized re-route and should remain open. When folks get used to it being there I will cover the old line.

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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby kevin g » August 26th, 2010, 7:32 am

Thanks for banking that turn on the black loop. I went down hard there a couple of weeks ago (my first time on the trail this year) trying to take it too fast. Noticed the banking yesterday, good job.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby bignlow » August 30th, 2010, 4:39 am

WOW!! what a trail.

This is my new favorite and I would say nothing in this area competes with this for speed and fun. Lets just hope people don't start making bypasses like other trails around.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby RickPlite » September 4th, 2010, 7:16 pm

Luton received just the right amount of rain the past few days. Great conditions right now. One low tree on the Black Loop about 1/2 way through. Hope to get it out soon.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby georgemra » September 6th, 2010, 9:14 am

My hat's off to those that designed and maintain Luton trails, they were wonderful to ride. That tree that was low on the black loop is now a widow maker, and there is another tree about 400 yards later that requires a dismount to go under it. Again, these trails were just a delight to ride.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby RickPlite » September 9th, 2010, 4:27 pm

Luton is clear of all fallen trees as of today and is prime shape. Who beat me to the two fallen trees on the Black Loop? It was nice to just ride the bike rather than more trail work, thanks!
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby RickPlite » September 13th, 2010, 2:42 pm

additional gravel will be delivered and spread on the east side of the Blue Loop on Tuesday 9/14. If we need a trail day to fine tune it I will post up here. Thanks to the folks and organizations that made donations for round two.
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby compacted_graphite » September 14th, 2010, 12:10 pm

Rode the Luton Park while in town last week for the Midwest Mountain Bike Summit. Very nice trail - well laid out, looks like it will drain well, and there were no wet spots. Nicely organized and nice gradients. Well done!!
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Re: Western: Luton Park

Postby RickPlite » September 16th, 2010, 10:58 am

All the crushed gravel has been delivered and spread on the Blue Loop. We will leave some boardwalks in place for a while to make sure we don't need them in some "new" location. 8 of the sections will find a new home at Ionia State Recreation Area, so I say to those that donated time, wood and money for these boardwalks, don't worry they are still serving a purpose at a trail in the Western Chapter. Thanks for helping with this project!
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